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United Airlines’ China Expansion: Ambitious Plans Amid Ongoing Challenges

United Airlines’ recently announced massive expansion of service to China for late October 2025 represents an ambitious return to pre-pandemic route networks, but significant questions remain about whether these flights will actually materialize as scheduled.

The Announced Expansion Plan

On March 25, 2025, United Airlines updated its winter 2025-2026 schedule with what has been described as a “gargantuan expansion” to Mainland China and Hong Kong, with routes scheduled to launch in late October 2025 at the start of the IATA winter season[1]. The planned routes include:

  • Daily Chicago (ORD) to Beijing (PEK) flights using Boeing 777-200ERs
  • Daily Chicago (ORD) to Shanghai (PVG) flights using Boeing 787-8s
  • Daily Newark (EWR) to Beijing (PEK) flights using Boeing 777-200ERs
  • Daily Newark (EWR) to Hong Kong (HKG) flights using Boeing 777-300ERs
  • Daily Newark (EWR) to Shanghai (PVG) flights using Boeing 777-200ERs
  • 3x weekly San Francisco (SFO) to Chengdu (CTU) flights using Boeing 787-9s[1]

These flights appear to be resumptions of routes that United operated before the pandemic, and they are already loaded into United’s booking system, although currently only at the highest fare classes[1].

Reasons for Skepticism

Despite United’s ambitious schedule, there are several factors suggesting these plans might face significant challenges:

1. Historical Pattern of Schedule Adjustments

United has previously loaded China flights into its schedule only to scale them back later. In 2023, the airline announced plans to resume several routes to China in October but subsequently reduced operations to just one route: San Francisco to Shanghai[5]. Similarly, in late 2024, United requested to operate only 21 of its 63 weekly frequencies to China for the winter 2024-25 season, seeking waivers for the remaining 42 frequencies[11].

2. Ongoing Market Challenges

The US-China flight market remains well below pre-pandemic levels due to several factors:

  • Reduced business travel demand[11]
  • Rising geopolitical tensions resulting in capacity restrictions[7]
  • The closure of Russian airspace to US airlines, giving Chinese carriers a competitive advantage on flight times[7]

3. Regulatory Considerations

United’s expansion plans face regulatory hurdles:

  • Flights between the US and China are slot-controlled, requiring specific permissions
  • The Department of Transportation (DOT) dormancy waivers for China flights were previously set to end in late October 2025[1]
  • The airline needs to have secured the necessary approvals to operate these routes

4. Current Operations vs. Expansion Plans

As of early 2025, United’s China operations were still limited compared to pre-pandemic levels:

  • Daily flights between San Francisco and Beijing
  • Daily flights between San Francisco and Shanghai
  • Daily flights between Los Angeles and Shanghai (resumed in August 2024 after a four-year hiatus)[7][8]

The jump from these current operations to the extensive network announced for late October 2025 represents a significant expansion that would require substantial resources and market demand.

Is the Expansion Possible?

While the expansion is technically possible, several factors will determine whether these flights actually materialize as scheduled:

  1. Russian airspace access: United may be scheduling these flights based on an assumption that Russian airspace restrictions for US carriers will end in the coming months[1].

  2. Market demand recovery: The expansion would require a significant improvement in US-China travel demand, which has been slow to recover.

  3. Aircraft availability: United needs sufficient widebody aircraft to operate these routes while maintaining its global network.

  4. Regulatory approvals: United must secure all necessary permissions from both US and Chinese authorities.

Conclusion

United Airlines’ planned China expansion for late October 2025 represents an ambitious return to pre-pandemic service levels. While the flights are already in the booking system, there are valid reasons to question whether all these routes will launch as scheduled.

The airline has previously added China flights to its schedule only to later scale them back. Additionally, challenges such as Russian airspace restrictions, uncertain demand, and regulatory hurdles remain significant factors that could impact these plans.

Industry observers are taking a cautious approach, with some speculating that at least some of these flights may be placeholders rather than firm commitments[1]. As one commenter noted in response to the announcement: “Placeholders. I don’t realistically expect any of these to operate this winter”[1].

The coming months will reveal whether United is truly committed to this massive China expansion or if schedule adjustments will once again reduce the ambitious plan to a more modest offering.

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我看票第说前提是走大鹅领空?

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有可能是IAD需求不足,调机加东亚了,CEO已经报了IAD政府旅游砍半

票帝已经评论说是幻影 :yaoming:

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国航已经暖心升级iad到747-8了 :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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CTU,纯纯无息

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If they can work from home, I guess that they won’t need to travel that much?

估计是政府内部消息,战争要结束了

Kirby可是第一个去:face_blowing_a_kiss::peach:

They are linkedin open to work at home :troll:

赌年底前开放领空吧 也合理

都多少年了,怎么还有人信这个?还在出口转内销

现在的客流就算大俄开了领空也支撑不了这么多航线

前不久UA post了PEK的 机务工作 现在都在用CA的

美国国内需求下降了,难道准备多开国际了?

成都我真不Care ORD得来点什么吧….. 天天就那一班HND 除此以外就是美国乡土文化线 真日了

每年来一次,每年都有人上当 :yaoming:

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要是真的 那是好事啊

这不就是无息贷款嘛

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这不每次一换航季都有的无息贷款吗,光ewr-pek那个都说了几年了也没飞过。one mile文章质量也越来越差了

One credit card referral at a time .com :troll: