羊毛薅多了会吃官司吗

今天又收到几个instacart的50 off的email 联想到去年也趁热小薅了一把 还有类似capital one shopping的referral
印象中每次薅羊毛都是热火朝天 但是从来没考虑过公司会不会突然来个杀鸡儆猴 那些50-40 40-30 的活动我记得持续了好几个月 坛里也有薅的比较凶的 随便100单的金额就有五六千了

那时候的流程好像都是用虚拟信用卡 然后假地址 假电话啥的 公司如果认真起来能直接拿这些来起诉说盗用身份啥的吗

google小搜了一下 好像没有看到类似的案例 比如公司起诉个人abuse他们新用户折扣或者推荐折扣的 有的一些也是跟政府相关的 比如之前乱领补助啥的 或者比较远古的coupon fraud

还有一个类似的东西就是 类如Metro [Dead?] Metro by T-mobile 40刀撸手机指南 [现在好像可以online port in了] - #3391,来自 Late-Dependent 这种新用户折扣 理论上手机公司是希望用户买了手机多用几个月的 我以前跟一个手机店的朋友聊起这个 他们说如果他们买太多了 (以公司性质买了几百上千那种) 这种手机公司会直接找上门 不记得是不是吃官司啥的

会 我们都有私人律师的

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:jingya: 私人律师也不免死呀 真要认真起来败诉还得败

instacart我们帮他从22拉到40反过来告我们?他得跪下来求我用 还反了天了

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坛里大部分人只是买了贴补家用 我是有看到buying group那边的人直接用那些折扣买货到buying group的仓库 感觉这就有点过分了

花10w起诉你让你赔500 是吧

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500当然不至于 我意思是那些薅羊毛多的人 几百单下来数量就好几千甚至上万了 只是我还没找到有类似的案件 公司起诉个人的
而且大公司自己养的律师起诉也不会那么高的吧

wire fraud
和偷USPS邮箱里的信一个级别
鉴定为你法我笑

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我出了chase季度报销 其他都是真金白银买胡萝卜,很少给我发coupon :yaoming:

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难道你真薅了几百单了?

:yaoming: 那不至于 最多的时候大概一周两三单吧 脸皮薄 不好意思老去pickup

一天一单也得两年吧

这个不是吧,一直用的真地址 :yaoming:

会的,我一哥们已经被枪毙了

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ChatGPT的回复

Creating multiple accounts to exploit Instacart’s promotional offers can violate several laws, depending on the jurisdiction:

  1. Fraud Laws: Many jurisdictions have general fraud laws that prohibit obtaining goods or services through deceit or misrepresentation. By creating multiple accounts to access promotions intended for first-time users, one could be committing fraud.

  2. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA): In the United States, the CFAA prohibits unauthorized access to computer systems. If creating multiple accounts involves circumventing Instacart’s systems or policies, it could potentially fall under this act.

  3. Contract Law: When users sign up for Instacart, they agree to the terms of service, which typically include provisions against creating multiple accounts. Violating these terms can be considered a breach of contract, and Instacart can take legal action for such breaches.

  4. Consumer Protection Laws: Some jurisdictions have consumer protection laws that prohibit deceptive practices in commercial transactions. Exploiting promotions through multiple accounts might be considered deceptive and could violate these laws.

The specific laws and penalties can vary widely by country and state, so the legal consequences will depend on the local legal framework.

量少问题应该不大吧 就是好奇有些人薅太多 公司会不会来找事

我没学过法律,比如每周薅一单,持续两三年,这样频率不高,但一单40 off加起来也像你说的小几千了

GPT又回复了

Yes, $6,480 could be considered a significant amount, especially from the perspective of a company’s financial losses due to fraudulent activity. Here’s why:

  1. Cumulative Impact: While an individual instance of $40 may not seem large, the cumulative effect of repeated abuse over three years is substantial.

  2. Pattern of Fraud: Engaging in this activity consistently over an extended period demonstrates a clear pattern of intentional fraud, which companies and legal authorities may take more seriously.

  3. Company’s Financial Loss: For a company like Instacart, multiple users exploiting promotions in this way could result in considerable financial losses, prompting stricter enforcement and potential legal action.

In such cases, the company is more likely to take action to prevent further abuse, which could include:

  • Internal Measures: Banning the user and reclaiming any benefits obtained through fraudulent means.
  • Legal Action: Depending on the company’s policies and the jurisdiction, the company could pursue legal action to recover losses and deter future abuse.

The financial implications make it more likely that significant and sustained abuse could lead to serious consequences, including legal action and financial penalties.

五六千可能对于大公司来说不算多吧 有些人薅了几万的量 但是我还没google出有啥类似的案例
就看到有俩滥用target还有个啥nordstorm内部的员工折扣被起诉抓的
好像有种诈骗叫啥coupon fraud 貌似是伪造coupon之类的
instatcart这种折扣理论上也是coupon吧?

很简单的事情。
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