[WSJ]wells fargo 和 bilt的合作似乎亏的很厉害。附带Bilt CEO 回应

https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/wells-fargo-credit-card-rent-rewards-8e380852?mod=hp_lead_pos4

一些key take away

  • 每批一张 Bilt 卡,WF会支付给Bilt 200刀
  • rent payment,WF会支付0.8%给Bilt
  • WF预估的non rent payment 比例和pay interest 比例过于乐观
  • WF已经叫停了所有发行新cobranded card的计划(除了之前已经agreed的expedia联名卡),转而专注于发行自家的卡
  • WF目前和bilt的合约到2029年,可能不会续约。

Bilt CEO强势回应

A) Wells Fargo went on the record with the WSJ stating: “There has been no conversation among decision makers to exit the BILT agreement. To suggest otherwise is false.”. The WSJ chose not to run this.

B) Bilt is a loyalty network driving spend between local residents and merchants. 85% of our members use Bilt’s platform with their other linked Amex/Visa/Maatercards. And while less than <15% of our members are Wells Fargo cobrand credit cardholders, we are excited and committed to our partnership with Wells. The Bilt Cobrand has resulted in:

-70% of Bilt cardholders being new customers to WF
-Average age of 31
-Average FICO of 760

These are highly valuable customers to any bank being acquired at a far lower cost. (banks often spend $1k-$2k on acquisition costs for premium, next gen customers - look at Chase Sapphire as an example).

And we are only 18 months into the cobrand partnership with lots of opportunity to drive even more everyday spend behavior. And are committed to making this a win-win together.

C) Bilt’s platform is much broader than our cobrand card. We work with all the major banks and networks to help drive spend on rent and at neighborhood merchants. And like Visa or Mastercard, merchants fund the loyalty rewards when Bilt drives spend from our residents (on any debit or credit card).

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没事 到2029年呢 这不是还能薅五年吗

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难怪bilt 福利这么好,原来wells frago在出血,且薅且珍惜吧

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所以富二代他爹给wf输送了多少利益 :yaoming:

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总有一一个人要先走 :troll:

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这种deal也能谈下来,果然是撸卡之王,把WF都撸疼了 :yaoming:

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cobrand其实就那样,一个不小心就是坑。比如大家觉得已经算没啥福利的apple card,gs也不见得能赚多少

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唉早就知道不可能持久,真的是且薅姐珍惜了

那哪是没赚多少,是巨亏还没人接盘 :joy:

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https://www.wsj.com/finance/banking/wells-fargo-credit-card-rent-rewards-8e380852?st=l0i55jlceucfet7&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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辛苦 @aqua 老师

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bilt没了AA就持有价值大减了。

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还能申请吗?

前两点倒是基本联名卡都是一样的操作,每开一张Honors系列卡Amex也要给Hilton sign up fee的。WF估计严重估计错了用户群体中revolver vs transactor比例

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GS早想离了 可奈何厨子找不着下家 这败家媳妇儿就得养着啊

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對沒租房的,這張卡真的很普通,不怎麼在外吃飯的也是很雞肋,而且吃飯返現有更多更好的卡。沒想到這樣還能被薅,看來很多用戶真的只是拿來出房租的。

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Bilt最有名的盜刷是不是也要WF負擔?

肯定的,多少人刷完月初五筆就鎖卡到下個月 :yaoming:

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能转AS能睡,很不错了。之前还能转AA,可以说是AA除开卡以外上量的唯一办法。

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说明还能稳定撸五年

你确定能上量吗? 为什么我感觉基本都死了